Sold 2 million copies of 12 rules. 800,000 followers on twitter. 1.4 million followers on YouTube. 65/35 male to female.
[0.47] ‘they’re hungry for a discussion of the relationship between responsibility and meaning. We haven’t had that discussion in our culture for fifty years. We’ve focussed on rights, freedom and impulsive pleasure…’
AKA he wants to go back to the 1950’s. this is why people say that.
[1.12] ‘If people are moored shallowly, then storms wreck them’… courage… responsibility… mature… why it’s a good thing to be an adult…
Benign psychological wisdom.
[4.02] ‘Our culture confuses men’s desire for achievement and competence with the patriarchal desire for tyrannical power’
Dominance doesn’t need to be tyrannical for it to exist as a system of power. The definition of patriarchy as ‘a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it’. This is not debatable unless you first conflate patriarchy with tyranny (‘cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control’) and then deny its tyrannical to deny its patriarchal. JP doesn’t think male dominance is unreasonable because he thinks it’s justified by competence and biology.
(Interviewer) ‘Why is order masculine?’
[4.56] ‘In what sense is our society male dominated?’ … most people in prison, homeless, commuting violent suicide, dying in war are men
[5.41] when he’s saying that men are badly affected so that means it’s not patriarchal- false, it’s just because of patriarchy & toxic masculinity combined with capitalism! This doesn’t discount the fact that they are also overrepresented in positions of “power”- it’s men that are putting them in prisons, men commit more crimes rather than there being a bias against men, at present if anything courts are biased in favour of white affluent men.
[6.15] (speaks over her) ‘This is a trope that people just accept, western society is a male dominated patriarchy.. it’s like, no it’s not. That’s not true.
‘And even if it has a patriarchal structure to some degree the fundamental basis of that [heirarchial] structure is not power, it’s competence’
He thinks it’s just the natural order of things for males to dominate, that’s why he doesn’t think patriarchy exists.
[6.51] ‘Only when it degenerates into tyranny that the fundamental relationships between people become dependant on power’
He only acknowledges tyrannical power- he doesn’t understand systemic power.
[8.15] (interviewer) Professions women were barred from. Men were the ones guarding entry. Technology. The pill. Legal changes allowed women to be full legal beings and own property. Culture still lags behind.
[9.49] ‘this whole patriarchy thing, I think you have no idea how pernicious and dangerous it is. Men and women throughout history have fundamentally cooperated to push back against the absolute catastrophe of existence… to look backwards and say well basically men took the upper hand and persecuted women in this tyrannical patriarchy, dreadful misreading of history, terrible thing to teach young women and horrible to inflict upon men’
(Interviewer) like saying slavery in the us was everyone cooperating- they were owned by fathers and then husbands
JP: only the pill and tampons emanicipated women, not from a supposed patriarchy.
Interviewer: yes the pill, Dishwasher, whitegoods, labour saving devices, campaign for the vote.
She begins to ask a follow up question, he speaks over her.
JP: ‘Why would you even want to look at history like that?’
(Interviewer) Those who don’t learn from history are condemned to repeat it, abortion rights are fundamental to women’s
[12.00] Ohhhhh damn she went there hahaha. He’s a religious man at heart but too smart to make anti-abortion comments
He’s so white west ethno centric that he has no conception of societies where women also do manual labour, sometimes the bulk of it
[12.58]. By ‘not doing anyone any good’ he means it’s not doing MEN any good. Lol
[14.15]. ‘Perhaps there’s more women in the social sciences because women are just cleverer. Under your doctorate..’ 😅
‘You talk in apocalyptic terms’… she’s totally right! As a psychologist he should know better than to catastrophise. He’s constantly catastrophising. Maybe that’s why he’s anxious and depressed 🧐
Also along that train of through- he’s all ‘be a feminist and see how that affects your relationships’ – in would seem that in this interview one person is emotionally healthy and functioning, the other has dysfunctional beliefs and mood disorders…. 😬
[17.26]. Abusive male rhetoric. ‘If you’re grateful for me putting the roof over your head, that means I’m not abusing you’
Dumb. Manipulative. Emotionally chaotic.
[17.35]. Sanitation & technology are not mutually exclusive with patriarchy- they’re certainly not mutually exclusive with tyranny!- and they’re not solely the product of men!! So many discoveries and so much work done by women has just been white washed from western historical accounts
[18.33]. He’s so aggressive and condescending, baits her, attacks her, won’t let her finish an idea.
[18.41] ‘I’m not really sure I’m going to be able to help the Neanderthals at this point by giving up some money’
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